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13 September 2008 @ 03:39 pm
illicit romance and piracy have never been so dull  
Why did no one tell me that Elizabeth: The Golden Age was actually really boring? No one seemed to have a personality, which is unexpected with so many larger-than-life characters on screen. Occasionally Raleigh would utter some pirate koan like "Why fear tomorrow when today is all we have?" or something, but that was about it. And the filmmakers did that annoying thing that filmmakers do, which is to forget that people who are supposed to be in love actually have to be shown, like, *interacting* with each other and stuff. In more than an "oh, your Catholic relatives just got executed, let me kiss you and make it better" kind of way. (And just where did these Catholic relatives come from, anyway? I know Bess Throckmorton had Catholics in the family, but I don't recall that any of them were executed. And just who was doing the executing, since Elizabeth was such an Icon of Tolerance [TM] in contrast to Mr. Holy War, Philip of Spain? I'm not asking for historical fidelity, necessarily, but invented stuff should make sense. Make sure we know where people are and who they are. Maybe give people names, every now and again.)

So yeah, nothing made any sense. Not that I should be surprised, given what they did to Robert Dudley in the first film, but still. And did the name "Babington" actually ever pass anyone's lips?

In conclusion, bah. And also humbug.
 
 
 
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tempestsarekind: viola giggletempestsarekind on September 14th, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
Hee--no worries! It's just that I was expecting it to be, at least, ridiculously bad in a funny way, and instead it was just...well, dull.
unsingable name: misc || schrodingersaestina on September 13th, 2008 10:03 pm (UTC)
I still haven't seen it, not entirely recovered from the first film. Aside from the TRAVESTY of that ending (I mean, it's not as though I was expecting historical accuracy or even particularly care about deviations from fact, but that ending was just ridiculous) I remember thinking how stupid it was that they'd concocted this papal murder plot that was far less interesting than most of the real plots against Elizabeth's life. I couldn't really get excited about the idea of the same people taking on the story of the Armada and Elizabeth and Raleigh's ooh epic love.
tempestsarekind: peddlers of bombasttempestsarekind on September 14th, 2008 04:47 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Only it was more ooh tepid interest more than anything else. :) The first film at least gave us lots of Cate Blanchett; this one didn't even really get that right.

I'm still not 100% sure what *happened* at the end of the first film, and I've seen it more than once with friends. They're just as confused as I am, so at least it's not just me?
La Reine Noire: Studious Veronicalareinenoire on September 14th, 2008 12:59 am (UTC)
I watched it on a plane, mostly because there was nothing else to do. It was pretty, and the soundtrack was beautiful. Other than that, I had to switch off my brain and even then I had problems.

As for Babington, I vaguely remember someone at least mentioned him, and I think he was one of the numerous random people Walsingham had killed. Actually...I think the only reason I noticed him was that he was one of the company members in the RSC histories and I remembered seeing that in his bio.
tempestsarekind: boy actresstempestsarekind on September 14th, 2008 04:44 pm (UTC)
Exactly--I know Babington was *in* the film, because Eddie Redmayne was playing him. (Though I know him from the Middle Temple Twelfth Night that I never got to see *sob*.) But I can't recall anyone ever actually calling him by name. Not that I was paying all that much attention, but you'd think it's the kind of thing they'd want to be overly clear about!

It was a pretty movie, true. I just didn't think it really held together *as* a movie, even setting aside the historical issues.
La Reine Noire: Elegancelareinenoire on September 14th, 2008 06:14 pm (UTC)
I would agree -- it was very disjointed, plotwise, and a lot of things simply didn't make any sense. Did you ever read angevin2's recap from about a year ago? It's absolutely hilarious and very accurate.
tempestsarekind: elizabeth bennet is amusedtempestsarekind on September 14th, 2008 06:18 pm (UTC)
Yes--it was! And, as a side benefit, it meant that I was prepared for the woeful lack of actual Tilbury speech. :)