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18 April 2008 @ 06:56 pm
one more thing  
For all that the Doctor's saving the Cambridge Latins (I started calling them that in comments to my last post, and now I cannot turn it off) is a major moment, and a good one (though slightly spoiled by the brilliant white light, which--again--is all about making him godlike, rather than trying to do the best, the only, thing he can under horrifying circumstances, which is what's *actually* happening, and does the TARDIS even glow like that inside?), the moment that I found more telling about the Doctor's possibly being different this season is when he tosses off that comment about Quintus: "I thought your son was brilliant, aren't you going to thank him?" Just because it *wasn't* the huge, pivotal scene. Maybe it says more about me than about the Doctor, in that I'm *surprised* by those moments of natural, casual kindness now, after his aloofness from Martha and the clubbiness of the Ten and Rose dynamic (see: Mickey), but--good on you, Doctor. He's actually paying attention to things beyond himself, even beyond the praise that he could give, picking up on the fact that Quintus' *family* needs to tell him that he was brilliant. Much better than "Not her--she'd only hold us up."

Also--is it just me, or does the Doctor only seem to be concerned about the companion's clothes in Victorian episodes? The question comes up in several of the historical eps--Nine makes Rose change; Ten apologizes for Rose's nakedness--but while Shakespeare points out how fitted Martha's clothes are, the Doctor's take on everything to do with fitting *in* is "just walk around like you own the place," and Donna's comment about their clothes being out of place is met with the comment that "anything goes" in supposedly-Rome. Not that I think the writers have any policy on when one has to dress to match one's surroundings (early 20th-c. New York, not so much, but don't you dare show up to a party without black-tie), but it's still a bit odd.
 
 
 
stoplookingupstoplookingup on April 18th, 2008 11:43 pm (UTC)
Ooo...that's a good point. It's the little things isn't it?
tempestsarekind: ten and marthatempestsarekind on April 19th, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
Indeed. I think it's the little things that reveal how a character is *habitually*, not just on the occasions when he's making special exertions to save the day or whatever--which is why that moment actually did more for me than the expected heroism at the end (even if Donna did have to fight to get him to make that effort, I expected it to happen).
Neaneadods on April 19th, 2008 12:28 am (UTC)
good on you, Doctor. He's actually paying attention to things beyond himself, even beyond the praise that he could give, picking up on the fact that Quintus' *family* needs to tell him that he was brilliant.

He seems to have learned his lesson from Martha's speech. I certainly hope so.
tempestsarekind: smith and jonestempestsarekind on April 19th, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)
I hope so, too. Because it clearly wasn't enough that he *thought* Martha was good--she needed to hear it as well.
Neaneadods on April 20th, 2008 01:17 am (UTC)
I hold out hope that this newer, more self-aware Doctor will realize this.
tempestsarekind: ten and marthatempestsarekind on April 20th, 2008 01:30 am (UTC)
Oh, me too! I'm a bit worried about Martha's return, but if they can keep building on what they've started, maybe good things will result.
pink for pterodactyl: dw:gallifreyansignificantowl on April 19th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
brilliant in particular being his Marthaword, I don't mind telling you I squeaked at that sentence. :D

and, a theory on the clothes (okay, probably not correct but still fun) is that he was just never quite sure about Rose's choice of style, and so was quick to mock (wee naked child, You sure about that t-shirt?) or make her change.

Edited at 2008-04-19 02:12 pm (UTC)
tempestsarekind: martha jones is a startempestsarekind on April 19th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
Hee. I did the same thing. "I know who *else* is brilliant, and so do you, Doctor! You even told Donna!"

Also--heh. Maybe it was just Rose, after all. :) And I'd actually skipped over the moment in "The Empty Child," somehow, even though it's a cute moment.