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19 June 2010 @ 05:18 pm
taking a breather  
Okay, I've only been watching for five minutes, and I am not sure if I can deal with the amount of awesome I've already seen.

ETA: CANNOT COMPUTE. TOO MUCH. If I were talking instead of typing, the only thing that would becoming out would be a high-pitched yodeling sound (which is threatening to come out anyway, just so you know.) I just-- I don't even know where to start.

I feel like next week is either going to make me absolutely elated, or it is going to turn me into a bitter, sobbing wreck.

I do have one question, though: If this episode's River never warned Eleven and Amy about the Pandorica, that means she's earlier in her time stream than the "Angels" River. [ETA: Wait, but the guard calls her "Dr. Song," which would mean that this is a later River than that one, so...I give up, basically. Maybe she's just lying about the whole thing.] So how does she know Amy? Should I assume this is one of the things in the book of spoilers that she's read about? Though if that were the case, she'd know what was going on, presumably. (Unless she only has some of the information about things with which she's directly concerned: so she knows about Donna's eventual fate in "Silence in the Library/Forests of the Dead," but doesn't know what's going to happen with that particular storyline. Okay, that makes some sense.) Or is it a slip-up?

While I'm here--thanks ever so, Moffat, for stomping all over my heart so thoroughly. RORY OMG WHY. DDDD:

I think I have now gotten on board the River Song love train, though. I tend to go back and forth between liking her and being slightly freaked by the...temporal coercion? in her relationship with the Doctor. But when Eleven sees the graffiti, he can't help but smile, which makes me feel like he's growing accustomed to their relationship, which helps me, a lot. Plus, hello, she's awesome in this. I loved "You're all barbarians now." That one line does exactly the kind of thing I adore: putting two times, two different world views, up against each other, and using the earlier one as reference point for the second, to try to make sense of it. Time travel ftw.

Okay, also, I love that Amy loves Romans and Greek mythology. A girl after my own heart. I'm going to try not to be all obnoxiously meta, but--you guys. Pandora's box. It's a box full of monsters and hope. Tell me that's not Amy's life--a lifeline to cling to, that there's something else out there. Tell me that's not the TARDIS.
Jay the Nerd Kid - Elitist Internet Royalty: bewarethespork - gay for riverbewarethespork on June 19th, 2010 09:37 pm (UTC)
Just so you know: IT GETS BETTER. :D
tempestsarekind: amy pondtempestsarekind on June 19th, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC)
I just finished watching it. OMG WHAT WAS THAT I DON'T EVEN.

Why is it not next week RIGHT NOW?!?!
Neaneadods on June 19th, 2010 10:30 pm (UTC)
Best! Cliffhanger! EVER!!!
tempestsarekind: a sort of fairytaletempestsarekind on June 19th, 2010 10:35 pm (UTC)
I KNOW! And it's perfect in an inverted sort of way: the whole time I've been thinking that the most feared thing in the universe *couldn't* be the Doctor, because he's not actually inside the Pandorica, but then it was him, after all!
Neaneadods on June 19th, 2010 10:49 pm (UTC)
I'd seen pictures of him all strapped up, so I thought he'd pop out and there would be two of 'em. I was obviously quite wrong.
tempestsarekind: eleven and amytempestsarekind on June 19th, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
I managed to stay (mostly) unspoiled for this episode, except for the part where I ran to IMDb after "Cold Blood" to see if Arthur Darvill was listed for any other episodes in the season, so I had no idea. I'd thought that the description sounded very like the Doctor, but didn't really think beyond that.
Constant Readerskirmish_of_wit on June 20th, 2010 12:26 am (UTC)
As soon as they mentioned good wizards in boxes (that happen to be in underground caverns, under STONEHENGE) all I could think of was Merlin, and then River made that comment about the Doctor being the good wizard, and I was like OH SHIT, and then it HAPPENED, and then RORRRYYYYYY and my face went :D :D and then D: D: and it's still doing that. AMYYY. And Matt Smith's desperate, pleading face! I admit, I cried! Especially because of the TARDIS exploding, but the TARDIS can't really explode because then what is the point of the show? This is how I am consoling myself.


Whose voice was saying "Silence will fall"?
tempestsarekind: eleven and amytempestsarekind on June 20th, 2010 12:46 am (UTC)
And Matt Smith's desperate, pleading face!

Oh man, I know! I was mentioning on someone else's entry that I loved that bit (you know, while I was also going, "whyyyyy?"), because it was so Eleven. I feel like Ten would have raged there, but Eleven wept and pleaded.

My brain was way too slow on the uptake to catch the Merlin thing, which is weird, because I was even like, "well, Merlin was in a box," and thought, "ha ha, the Doctor is Merlin," and NEVER put two and two together. *facepalm* This is why I don't read mysteries. Even when I recognize the clues, I don't assemble them in the right order half the time.

I don't know, because if the TARDIS explodes then the Doctor can't even cross his own timestream or whatever and try to fix it! I have no idea what's going to happen, and RORY and AMY and I've just watched the episode again, and it's still too much.

Why is everything broken? *sniff*

oh, PS--no idea about the voice. My guesses are either Davros, somehow, or whoever was trying to build that time machine in "The Lodger."

Edited at 2010-06-20 12:47 am (UTC)
clean all the things!!!: ned like woahthepresidentrix on June 20th, 2010 04:36 am (UTC)
Augh! I am so frustrated! I couldn't get BBC.com to stream the episode, but I also couldn't bear to wait for it, so I kind of struggled through it with the sound not synching up to the pictures. I still don't quite understand what happened there at the end, though I HAVE MY FEARS.


There has got to be a way to fix this... *wibbles*
tempestsarekind: eleven and amytempestsarekind on June 20th, 2010 03:53 pm (UTC)
I suppose you could watch it again? I've already seen it twice. :) And just--aaaah, argh, etc. RORY. D: I was thinking that they couldn't make me any sadder about him, and they clearly set out to prove me wrong.

My biggest concern (well, my biggest non-Rory concern) is that they're going to wind up rewriting all of Amy's history with the Doctor, which would make me really sad.
clean all the things!!!: vogon poetrythepresidentrix on June 20th, 2010 06:45 pm (UTC)
Oh, I meant a way to fix... the universe? Rory? AMY? The poor doctor? JUST EVERYTHING. Not to fix the player. I figured out how to switch it to low bandwidth, even though my bandwidth should in theory be adequate for the regular service, and it played just fine. So far, I've only had time to watch the last fifteen minutes over again in detail, but that was enough to provoke some major sobbage!!!

Man, if I only had the time to spare, I'd watch the entire season over again right away, just to see what little hints I could pick up - and also for the pleasure of revisiting happier Rory days.

I, too, worry that the solution will involve some kind of no-Amy reset button. No please no, Moffat!!! It would be like Donna redux.

Btw, on the question of River's timeline, I'm pretty conclusively sure that this is the earliest version of River yet. The middle version from Time of Angels was surprised when the Doctor called her 'professor,' but everybody was already calling her Doctor Song.

tempestsarekind: TARDIS plus angelstempestsarekind on June 21st, 2010 05:28 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see: I misunderstood!

Hmm--I missed the "Doctor Song" thing. Yet another thing to pay attention to during the inevitable rewatch! (I'd watch the season over again, too, if I could--but this show has already done enough damage to my work ethic.)

I would like to send some kind of memo: Dear Doctor Who people, enough with the memory erasure! I am hoping that Amy's special time traveler status will protect her; arguably, it helped her remember Rory even though she'd forgotten him for a while, so even if time gets rewritten, maybe she'll still remember it? (Although I think I would be gutted if that meant that, say, "Vincent and the Doctor" got un-happened.)
La Reine Noire: Cate with lacelareinenoire on June 21st, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
OMG SO MUCH LOVE FOR THIS EPISODE. I need it to be next week NOW.

Pandora's box. It's a box full of monsters and hope. Tell me that's not Amy's life--a lifeline to cling to, that there's something else out there. Tell me that's not the TARDIS.


And I really need space for a River icon.
tempestsarekind: amelia pond (ready for adventure)tempestsarekind on June 21st, 2010 05:29 pm (UTC)
This show is making it seriously hard to live my life. Hurry up, Saturday!

My problem is that I have three icon spaces vacant, and simply can't decide which character I most need an icon of. :) (Rory's in the lead, but--I have to wait and see what happens. I had a proper Donna icon for two weeks, and then after the finale, I was too upset to use it!)